Sunday at the National - Kellogg's Cards

 I was only able to get to the National today even though it is 20 miles from my house.  Next year I will hope to get to the show during the last two days when it is five hours away from home.

I stayed 4 1/2 hours and this is what I saw.  Sure, I missed out on some good stuff since the show had been going on since Wednesday.

It seemed like many of the dealers who I see at the National, as well as at the other big Chicago shows, have the same Kellogg's cards as they had in the past.  

I picked up a partial set of 1976 Kellogg's cards.  It is only missing Carter and Bench.  As usual, I cannot get a Bench from 1975 or 1976.  Why did I buy this when I've already gotten a few of these.  Yes, the first step is admitting you have a problem.  

I rarely double-check my set needs before going to the show, but I did so today.  I needed the 1980 Carews because most of mine are discolored on the back, probably due to the wrappers separating into two pieces.  

I need the Munsons and Blyleven for sets.  I need the 1974 Palmer and 1977 Fingers as upgrades since I usually see these cards with major cracks.  

I couldn't resist some 1972 commons when they are $1.  1973 Pirates are difficult for me to find as well.  

The Babe Ruth card is cracked but the price was right and it is Babe Ruth.  

I don't need the Nolan Ryans, but I can hopefully use them to trade for the 1974 Ryans that I need.

I need the Bill Singer for my 1970 sets.  I didn't need a reason the buy the Santo card.

What else did I see/did I not see on Sunday?  

Sets

I saw a few 1970 Kellogg's baseball sets, with one being curled in plastic sheets.  I saw one 1971 football set and no other sets older than 1976.  

There were a few 1976-77 sets and a handful of them fro 1979-83.  I didn't notice any newer ones.  Prices were not cheap, which is why they were still available on Sunday.

Factory Sets

I saw some from 1979 and 1981.  Not many of them around either.  

Singles

I didn't find anyone who had lots of Kellogg's cards in their bargain boxes.  I also only looked at a limited number of those boxes.  I did see Kellogg's cards sprinkled around the show at more tables than usual.  That at least led to more conversations with dealers than I usually have.  That made the show fun for me.  

I hoped to find more cards that I needed for sets, but many of the biggest stars from each set (Mays, Clemente, Ryan, etc) were priced higher than I was willing to pay.  Not many of them were even around.

Miscellaneous

I saw no 1994 Clemente cards at all.  That doesn't seem odd, except when comparing it to the 1968 Topps 3-D card that I saw two of together.  FYI - the dealer had three of them and he sold one.   The same dealer had a few other of the 1968 3-D cards.  

I didn't see any advertising products or full cereal boxes.  One dealer had the nicest cards cut from boxes and the color was the best I'd ever seen for these cards.  

What did I miss on the other days?  Did I miss anything today?

Kellogg's Cards That are Graded and Cracked - Now What?

 I mentioned these cards before but I had more questions about them.  

Summary - I picked up a lot that contained 1975 Kellogg's, one of the most likely of their sets to have cracked cards.  These two PSA 10 cards are severely cracked.

Here are the questions.

1.  Do people just take these cards out of the case since they are not looking too good?

2.  If someone takes the card out of the case, do you notify the grading company that it has been removed from the case?

I wonder about this because I've read comments from people online about their Kellogg's cards cracking after being graded.  If someone has a PSA 10 of a 1975 Topps Bill North, they probably are never going to take it out of the case.  Maybe not true of the cards above.

There are many PSA-graded 1975 Topps with very low populations.  Could those numbers be even lower if many of them are now cracked and/or removed from the holder?

I haven't decided the fate of these two cards yet.

Kellogg's Cards From Japan - Do They Exist From 2009 - YES!!!!!!!

https://thiscardiscool.blogspot.com/2015/03/a-look-at-and-checklists-for-kelloggs.html 

I've been looking for any example of Kellogg's cards from Japan issued in 2009.  I have yet to see any.  I have some from each of the other years, but none from 2009.  Does anyone have any information about this set?

I see a listing on ebay for one, but it doesn't seem to be anything other than an SP Authentic card.  

I found them on ebay.  Search for Japanese cereal cards baseball.  I am not sure I will pay that much for them since they are from the back of the box.  If they had all six it might make my decision easier.  

Here are some pictures.  Five are available from the same person - Kosuke Fukudome was not listed.

Still Looking For Bench and Matlack 1975 Kellogg's Cards

 As I work on completing some sets, of course I need Mays, Clemente, Ryan, etc.  But in 1975 I need Bench and Matlack  Oh, I probably have at least five of each, but they are all cracked immensely.

As a Kellogg's card hoarder, I promise to give them a good home if you can find a way to trade them to me.

Since I am only attending the National on Sunday, I doubt that I will find these cards.

I don't mind cracked cards, but I do need some un-cracked ones for sets I am working on this year.

Do I have stuff to trade?  Yes.  Obviously nothing from my want list as seen on the right.  

Do you want a 1981 set?  How about 1980?  I could work those into a deal since I have extras of those.  

Do you collect basketball cards?  I've got lots of 2000-01 Fleer Ultra 1-200 sets that I don't want.  

Still Looking - Does Anyone in Dallas Know How I Can Find More of the Benanti Collection Xograph Cards?

 I see a few cards on COMC.com and sometimes on ebay that are from the Benanti Collection.  When Beckett graded them they were labeled as such.  I picked up a bunch of these when Beckett Auctions was working with the Benanti family to sell the items.

A Beckett employee let me know that the family had more items for sale, but they didn't continue with Beckett Auctions.  Has anyone seen more of these cards anywhere?

I liked that they offered cards that were one-of-a-king proof cards.  Here are a few that I own.

Here are the mainstream cards of the two proofs from above.  Since I have nothing better to do, I found that the signature location changed from the proof to the released card.  The change was an improvement for the Gehrig card, but I am not convinced that the Williams card is better with the change.

I assume that there are others that have changed, but I haven't seen that many of the proofs.

Opening a 1979 Kellogg's Factory Set - Someone Opened It Before I Did

 Another set that I bought recently that was not sealed.  So, I decided to look through it today.  Many of the cards were still connected, but most of them loosely.

Here is what I saw when pulling the cards out.  It was obvious that the cards were not disturbed much by whoever opened the set.  Sadly, the Parker and Carlton were both badly cracked.  The bright colors on the cards were nice to see.

I kept a few of them together because they were firmly connected.  Only the Bruce Sutter was cracked.

Add these nine cards to the list of those cracked in this set.  10 / 60 were cracked.  I was lucky with the 1978s, but this group of 10 included better players including two HOFers - Sutter and Carlton.

Besides having nice colors, the cards are quite flat.  

The Ups and Downs of Kellogg's Factory Sets - I Was So Close

If I get a factory set that is sealed I keep it that way.  If I get one that is opened, it is really just a set in the original wrapper and/or box.  I keep the original packaging, but there really is now way to call it a factory set.

I am trying to collect a factory set from each year.  I don't expect to be able to get any of them before 1976 since (a) I rarely see them and (b) the price would be well beyond what I'd be able to afford.  

A few weeks ago I picked up two sets that were being sold as opened sets.  I don't know if I've ever seen a 1975 Kellogg's set in the original wrapper, so I picked it up since the price led to little risk on my part.   A 1975 set in the original wrapper - no shipping box was included.  

Sure, I was hoping for a nice Nolan Ryan and Pete Rose, but I was more interested in getting nice cards of Johnny Bench and Jon Matlack since I cannot find them in nice condition.

The wrapper looked okay,  I am finally seeing a 1975 set in the wrapper.  

The cards were fairly flat by Kellogg's standards.  One two of the cards were connected enough to keep them that way.

Corners and backs were good.  The cards were the corrected versions, but the Catfish Hunter seemed to be the wrong version.

Ryan and Rose were fully cracked.  EVERY card was fully cracked, some of them with a good portion of the coating coming off.  If this were a cheaper set, it might be worth trying to just peal the coating off of each card - they'd probably look better that way.    

One positive - I at least got to see this set for the first time ever.  Just like the one-card packs, I never see this set available online.

The second set got me different results - a 1978 set.  I already have a  sealed set so checking out this one was a bit more fun and less disappointing.  Here is the wrapper.  

Most of the cards were connected, at least lightly.  This panel was fairly secure, so I kept it together but the Dent card is the only cracked one.  A few other pairs were connected enough to keep them as well.  The ones connected lightly I got to separate, which was something I never did as a kid since we never had the money to send away for the set.

The cards were fairly flat too.

Amazingly, none of the 13 cracked cards were Hall of Famers.  There are three pairs below that are connected and two of the cards are not cracked.

I will need to keep looking for sealed factory sets from 1970 - 1975.  That should keep me busy for another 20 years.

Unopened Kellogg's One Card Packs - Are 1971s the Best Ones?

 I just picked up a 1971 Kellogg's baseball card in its original wrapper.  A nice Tony Perez.  I haven't made a list of which ones I need to complete the set yet because I probably only have 12 of these cards.

Sorry, I didn't scan the Perez yet.  Here is a 1971 Football card in its original wrapper.

I've seen the 1971s for sale frequently, but they are usually out of my price range.  A quick check of ebay shows that there are more than a few dozen of the 1971s available now.  That is not the case with every year.

I don't see any 1975s available in the one-card pack.  I have probably only seen them listed a few times.  In fact I still own only one 1975 in the wrapper and I can't even remember who it is.

Does anyone ever see 1975s in the original packs?  More about factory sets from these two years next time.  

Another Canadian Kellogg's Item -- 1992 All-Stars

 I stumbled onto the 1992 Canadian version of these Kellogg's cards before finding their USA counterparts.  Since then, I've seen the USA version of the set more than any other Kellogg's cards of any kind.  

The USA version was included in Corn Flakes boxes and it states that on the cards and the display.  The Canadian version was tossed into Froster Flakes boxes and the display shown above reflects that.  

I would still never choose to buy Corn Flakes over Frosted Flakes unless the prize was really good in the Corn Flakes box.

School is Out But Learning More About Kellogg's Basketball Cards From Canada is Just Beginning

In the past I had gotten a Kellogg's basketball card from Canada.  Now I have the whole set of five.  The 1996 cards were produced by Kellogg's.  I rarely see them available online.  That doesn't mean that they are rare or valuable.  Since they are so cheap, maybe no one bothers to sell them online.

Here are the Toronto Raptors issued with this set -

1 - Wille Anderson

2 - Damon Stoudamire

3 - Alvin Robertson

4 - Tony Massenburg

5 - Tracy Murray

Most of these guys didn't have long stays in Toronto although all had long NBA careers.

Back to baseball next time with a few things I learned about factory sets.

Does Anyone Collect Cards Cut From the Cereal Boxes?

and are there cards like the Tom Seavers that don't exist other than on the boxes?  I know that in the junk wax days there were four cards on the box bottoms that were unique

I have a few of the cereal boxes that advertise the Kellogg's cards found inside.  I don't see myself cutting the cards from them because I like the look of the complete box or back panel.  Here is one of the newer ones that I probably never bought.  Why?  I was in an apartment so Corn Flakes were never going to be purchased when there were so many good sugary choices.  Plus, Michael Jordan Wheaties boxes were everywhere.  I even won two MJ basketballs that I still have.    

The Tom Seaver cards are prominently featured on the back of the cereal box as shown above.  What I like about these cards, is that they really don't exist at all in the form shown on the box.  The 3-D card has a combination of both of these cards.

I also like that these Seaver cards are close to actual baseball card size.  Whoever cut these did quite a good job cutting them.  That's a skill I never have and if you don't believe me I can show you how poorly I cut Hostess cards in the 1970s.

The Schmidt card is not as large.  It is probably the size of the 1975 Topps Minis.  I'm too lazy to find the box to confirm, but the Schmidt must be on the top or bottom of the box.

The Palmer cards, like the others shown on the box, are small.  They are about the size of two postage stamps.  Someone really took their time to cut all of these cards out.  Luckily, they kept them since 1992 so I could have something to spend time on tonight.  

Are there variations of this box?  I doubt it.  The Canadian version looks to have the same layout.

Is every card available on the box?  Yes, but only Seaver and Palmer show two different poses.  Sorry, I didn't post both Palmers, which can be seen on the side panel.

There are no small versions of Seaver, but his cards are by far the best ones here.  

Valuable to My Collection - Probably Junk to Many Collectors

I love to add random stuff to my Kellogg's collection, even if is probably isn't considered valuable.  Do any of you do that? 

I picked up this group of unopened 1992 Kellogg's cards this week.  The cards don't sell for much, but these lot is different - the cards are all still connected to each other.  I didn't count how many are connected, but I was told that there are over 60 of them.  

Now I have a new project - figuring out how to display something like this.  Has anyone displayed cards connected like this?  Since these 3-D cards are heavier than the older ones, I want to keep them from damaging the packaging.  

Kellogg's Cards - Grading and Cracking

 I purchased these two cards recently.  I don't usually seek out graded cards, but these came in a lot of 30+ cards.  

When graded as 10 by PSA, can I assume that they were not cracked?  What do the grading companies do with cracked Kellogg's cards?

I have no problem with damaged Kellogg's cards, but I don't see them as gradable if they are cracked.   A well-loved, played with card is fine for my collection, but if the entire card is cracked there isn't much to see.

Nothing against the seller here because these cards were shown as cracked in the listing.  The cracks take a lot more of the shine off of the card than I'd expect.  

Does anyone have graded cards that were fine, but now are cracked?  That has not happened to any of mine.

Best Offer Accepted ----- But I Lost Anyway

 This is a new one for me.  I made an offer on a card recently and a counter offer was made.  Before I could accept it the fair offer, someone else bought the card.  Has it happened to you?

It would not be a big deal, except for the fact that it was a one-of-a-kind card.  

After a look at this sheet I feel a bit better.  I have no idea how to bid on stuff like these sheets or other unique items.  Most go beyond my budget.  

The last one is one of those that got away.  I should have bid a lot higher on it, but I don't know what any of this stuff is worth.  I hope that a Clemente collector is enjoying it - 72 Clementes together.

#6 on My List of Favorite Kellogg's Baseball Card Sets

 I keep going back and forth on #6 and #7.  I went with 1978 for #6.  I was busy with sports and I lost touch with my trading group so I didn't see extra cards often that year. 

I did find time to go to the most amazing card shop on Archer Avenue in Chicago - the Sports Collector's Store.  It was run by a few of the biggest names in card collecting.  For those of you who are older, you probably know who they are.  I still see at least one of them around at the big shows.

What I didn't see there, or at least notice, was Kellogg's cards.  Of course I never looked for new cards there.  I probably only purchased cards from 1969 and earlier when I went there.

Back to the 1978s.  I remember getting three Steve Carlton cards in one box of Frosted Flakes that year.  That would be great if I weren't a fan of the Cubs.  

I don't see as many 1978s cracked as I do other years, but there are still a lot of them.  I have a nice collection of cracked Mike Schmidt cards from 1978.  I could use some better ones.  Even one of my unopened Schmidt cards has problems - it is cut short on the right as compared to the card shown below it.  

I do like the card backs - lots of text and stats.  

My first unopened splurge was on 1978 Kellogg's cards.  I bought the entire set in the wrappers and I think that the Schmidt was normal.  With my luck, it is probably cracked too.

I bought another small lot of unopened cards and the card below was one of the first ones I opened since my childhood.  I certainly knew him from card collecting, but when the Cubs and White Sox had night games I always watched the Cubs.  "For all you youngsters out there" (thanks Steve Stone), the Cubs only played National League teams from 1946 - 1996 and before 1946 they only played AL teams in the World Series. 

I like the player selection in 1978 as compared to 1977.  It was a nice step back up to their normal solid checklist.

The Sutter card is one of my favorites.

#7 on My List of Favorite Kellogg's Baseball Card Sets

The top seven sets on my list are difficult to order because I like them all.  The1972 set shows up as #7 but it could easily be in the top three for me.  As a Cub fan, I remember having the Glenn Beckert card since childhood.

I like the unopened packs fro 1972.  They are well constructed and it is easy to see who the player is on the inside.  

I don't see as much curling in the 1972s compared to the other 1970 - 1980 offerings, skipping 1973 where there was no plastic coating and therefore no curling.  

I always liked the layout of the back of these cards.  There are a few variations in this set, but none seem too impossible to find.

As a kid, I had four categories of Kellogg's cards, especially after I started attending cards shows in 1976.

1.  1970 and 1971.  None of my friends had many of these and if they did, they were never offering them in trades.  At shows, I don't remember seeing Kellogg's cards much, but we were too busy looking at cards from the 1960s or older.

2. 1972 and 1973.  Some of the neighborhood kids had them, but there weren't many duplicates floating around.  I had a decent number of 1973s from cereal boxes and a few 1972s.  There seemed possible to get in trades if you were willing to give up Cubs or White Sox cards from your collection.

3.  1974 to 1978.  The core days of me getting them from cereal boxes.  Lots of siblings meant lots of cereal at home.  These also seemed easy to get since a few of the kids had convinced their parents to get them the entire sets through mail-in offers.  

4.  1979 to 1983.  I was still collecting cards during all of these days, but in high school and college I wasn't home enough to snag them from cereal boxes.  I also spent a lot of my money at shows on all of the 1981 - 1983 wax that exploded with the introduction of Fleer and Donruss cards.  

The player select was good, but with only 54 cards, there were a lot more limitations than in the first two years when 75 cards comprised a set.  

This set also has the last Kellogg's regular issue cards of Roberto Clemente and Willie Mays.  I have few memories of watching them play since I was nine during this season.